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[gala_apples]

Fuck my life.

So Caty just came online to ask me if I'd heard about Pete/Ashlee, and to wonder if bandom's going esplody.
Caty: Are bandom flipping their shit over Pete's divorce?
jamessiriusremus: YESSSSSSSSSSSS
Caty: Proof of the gay?? Any more news on why it is happening??
Caty: Is this where comfort sex fic comes?

And then I had to explain that people are honestly upset about this (me included, it was on the news tonight and I totally flailed at my parents) and people are already flaming each other on anon_lovefest for asking for post divorce Pete/Patrick, and that there will be people that legitly think the Wentzes broke up because Pete loved Patrick or Mikey more, and there will be the people that hate the first set and want them to die in a fire, and bandom's about to get dramatic.

And theeeeeeen I remembered a later plot point of one of my BBB's. The BBB that I'm already 13k into, have been planning for at least six months, and has every trope and background pairing I love in it. The plot point where Pete cheats on Ashlee with Gabe, and he feels guilty and tells her and they break up. But it's an important plot point, Pete and Ashlee have to break up and Pete has to hook up with Gabe. And that's when I realise that I am SO FUCKED.

I don't want to not write it, it's got too many things I love. But they need to be together at the beginning and they need to break up in the middle, and I would like to avoid being flamed like last years transfail. I'm shitty at gauging drama, do you think it would be better if Ashlee broke up with Pete and he ended up hooking up with Gabe? Or does that do the villianizing women thing? Does it make a difference that the 'cheating on' is just making out? Or that it's really really AU, obvious from the opening paragraph as well as the tropes thrown in?

And back to RL. Poor Pete. I just want him to be happy. The more I think about it the sadder I feel.

Comments

[greedy_dancer]

Fandom. We are complicated people. *sigh*

I'm always in favour of no cheating, personally. I don't like to read it, or there better be a DAMN GOOD REASON for it. I don't think having them break up first means making Ashlee the bad guy - unless YOU make her the bad guy, you know what I mean? I'd say they can break up and be both sad about it, and then Pete can go make out with whoever he wants, guilt-free!

Oh and yes, it IS very sad. :(

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've never written it/read it in bandom. I think it would be uncomfortable since it's real people, where as in my old fandoms it was totally common. Especially in HP, where at the end of the series she just wrote everyone as married.

I think as a whole we are shocked as hell, and people are dealing with it different ways.

[kopperblaze.livejournal.com]

same here. they just seemed....happy together, so it really makes me sad to have this come out of the blue. and i hope he is going to cope with it in a...healthy way? i don't know, it seems ridiculous to be concerned, but i am...

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

It's not ridiculous. I mean between how the hiatus went down, and what we know of his past, I'd really just like all of his friends to move into his house and have a constant slumber party. TAKE CARE OF HIM, PEOPLE.

[defect-no9.livejournal.com]

I agree with krisipanics above me. I really hope Pete handles this in a healthy way. I have a fic in the works about how Patrick feels about the Best Buy incident. I can't even look at it right now, because I'm kind of scared. I think you should continue the story as it was originally intended. We all have disclaimers at the top, and I'm pretty sure we all don't know the inner workings of Pete's relationships. Bandom usually doesn't even acknowledge the fact that he was married and had a kid. Any fandom that lets Pete be a lamp in one fic, and Patrick a seducer of hats in another, should be alright if the divorce is part of the plot. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Pete surprised us all with this suddenly, and I don't want it to change your story. Bandom needs to remember that whatever you say is fiction. Pete is not actually a werewolf or a vampire, and if for some reason he falls in love with Patrick or whoever---that's not our business. Don't worry about them, I'm sure the mods will keep an eye on everything. I can't wait to read it because I LOVE your work. Sorry about the rambling letter, lol. :D

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

Thank you for your thoughts. They were really helpful, I've been thinking about trashing the fic all morning, but I don't want to, really. It's the first longfic idea I ever got for bandom, early last year, I chatted it out in a friend's journal. Hell, the length of time it took me to refind that conversation to c&p alone would be a vote on the 'post it' side of the scale.

Fuck, yeah, I am paranoid as hell about how Pete is going to react to this. He's not exactly known for rational behaviour when he's upset. Which I'm not faulting him for, I have Borderline Personality Disorder, and I don't react well to things either. But I just hope he doesn't do anything to hurt himself, or others which in turn would hurt him by getting him arrested.

Also, I know it's tacky as FUCK, but part of me is wondering if the hair was a sign? When FOB broke and he got really fucked up he got that depression beard, when normally he's immaculate about his look. Maybe not flat ironing his hair was a sign that shit was getting bad?

[khereselle.livejournal.com]

I think if you post an author's note explaining that this was NOT written to reflect RL events, and in fact predates them, it would probably be okay.

I am always sad when people stop loving each other. :( And when there's a kid involved, it's worse.

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

Yeah, loading my Author's Notes with explanations should help a bit. Hopefully. Plus posting isn't for a few months so maybe it'll be calmer by then?

[coricomile.livejournal.com]

There's no way of handling this well. It's a sore spot for a lot of people- through experience, or even just an investment in Pete and Ashlee and their happiness- and bandom's going to hit a rough patch. I cried about it yesterday, no joke.

There's already been tweets to Patrick- who replies, and obviously reads everything- about how "Ashlee must have found out about him and Pete" and it's disgusting. They're real people, and so called "fans" are treating them like that. Fandom is one thing. Personally, I think that all fics dealing with the canon divorce are going to be sore spots, and I'm glad that I've handed the reigns of anon_lovefest over to skipstoomuch because I'd probably spend time yelling at people. Not for requesting or filling, but for being rude to the people that are. Some people want 'fix it' fics, and before Pete Wentz started hanging out on my lawn, I'd probably be doing that, too. It's different for everyone, and people need to be respectful of that.

I've got serious writer's guilt for something I wrote over a year ago. It's ridiculous.

I don't know what to tell you about your fic. :/ I mean, BBB doesn't publish until summer? So it might be far enough away that people won't be as likely to be hurty about it? But I don't know. That's way too much work to toss, though. It's going to be a tough choice. :/

I really hope Black Cards pans out for Pete. The tour's going to be the best thing for him right now. I'm kind of worried about him on his own. :/

[villiagegreen.livejournal.com]

O.O oh my god, I can't even...why on earth would people tweet things like that?

*dies a little on the inside*

[coricomile.livejournal.com]

I have no idea. For the same reason that people tweet-spammed Patrick with things about him being Bronx's real father? Fandom can't have nice things.

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

FUCK. what the HELL? I thought the jerkoff that asked Kerrang about "ferard" was a douchebag, that's so soooooo many times worse. Jesus fuck. How is that... who could possibly think that's an okay thing to say? I am seriously at a loss of words, except wanting to keyboard smash at the morons that would say that. uggggggggh.

I'm so torn right now. I think at this point I'm going to keep on writing it, and then decide closer to the due date if I can submit it. Like, I personally feel comfortable writing/posting it, I don't think it's offensive or even that relevant to the current situation (the 'verse is pretty damn not-canon). But I've been in fandom_wank a few times in my time in hp, and I'd really like to avoid that stream of flames in bandom. So I guess I'll just judge the climate in the summer.

Pete needs to be with other people, all the time, right now. *flail*

[coricomile.livejournal.com]

I don't know. I really fucking don't. I need to stop lurking his @replys because they're just serving to piss me off. There's the fans that are saying, "we're here for you no matter what" and "we love you", which is cool, but those are interspersed with "she was too good for you" or "she's a total bitch" or "guess FOBs can come back now" or, my personal favorite, "guess you can fuck me now!".

Because of course two people who were happily- very, very happily ;______;- can't get divorced amicably. Either Pete's crazy and Ashlee's a victim, or Ashlee's a bitch and Pete's a victim. Fandom's going to vilify the hell out of Ashlee, even though she doesn't deserve it. I'm not an Ashlee wife, okay? My opinion on her was always one of "She makes Pete happy, therefore I approve". But it's not fair to turn her into some sort of evil, psycho bitch because she wasn't happy in her marriage.

And the news sources aren't talking about it, but "fans" are: since Bebe's incredibly hot, Pete must have been cheating on Ashlee with her. No. Yes, Pete cheated a lot when he was younger. Because he was younger. He love(d) Ashlee. He wouldn't have risked her or Bronx for someone that he's known for such a little time, and it's unfair to think that of him.

I think that's all you're going to be able to do. :/ I mean, there's going to be a spike in Pete related fic, and part of me rejoices because hey. He's part of my favorite OTP. But I feel a lot of wank in the future. A lot of wank.

He does. :/ I don't think we'll have a repeat of certain actions because he's got Bronx and he wouldn't do that to his son, but still. I worry.

...I have feelings about this. :/

[villiagegreen.livejournal.com]

I feel very very bad for the wentzes and I hope that all three of their little pea picking hearts make it through without too many people trying to get in their business.

That said, what you're doing is fictional, your story is just that , a story, and has nothing to do with real life. Some people would be as offended that you are writing pete and gabe are bumping uglies let alone having a divorce from the mrs. So hopefully in the coming months people will have some of the sting wear off and people can read it as simple fiction.

So I say as long as you feel ok writing it, keep on keepin' on.

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

People need to STEP THE FUCK OFF. The thing that coricomile said about tweeting makes me want to bring down a reign of shit and fire upon people's heads. arrrrgh.

IT'S NOT EVEN A DIVORCE! It's a high school AU! It never even occured to me before yesterday that it might be a problem, when I was in high school/college none of my friends had a single relationship where there wasn't cheating. Except for the polygamist trio, they were happy together. But then yesterday, and I fear any fic with infidelity will not be appreciated.

Yeah, I agree. I'm going to keep writing it, and judge the climate closer to the due date, and hopefully people will be a bit removed from it by then and won't be furious at me for writing it, and then I can post it.

[halfeatenmoon.livejournal.com]

First of all, I think that if you need to write a story, you write it. Let it out of your mind, get the words out, and when you're writing just remember it's fiction and you can change and delete bits any time you like.

When you choose to post it, or whether you post it at all, is another matter. I don't know how important it is to you to submit this fic for BBB - or to do it for next year's BBB, you could do that - but no matter when you write it, you can always just save it until the time is right.

[gala-apples.livejournal.com]

That's a really good point, that I hadn't thought about, for some reason. I think that's actually what my current plan is. I'm going to keep writing it, and then see if it'll work for BBB later.

[kira-snugz.livejournal.com]

i had a miserable little fit when i found out about it. i was so hoping they'd be happy together forever for Bronx. theres so few couples who actually stay together these days and it just sucks.

i have no clue what you should do for your fic though. good luck figureing out